Oleg Zhokh – at the beginning of the video talks about doping control,
Andrey Pushkar – from 6:14 talks about doping control,
Igor Mazurenko – from 12:17 talks about doping control
Published on 4 Jul 2013
Igor Mazurenko, Andrey Pushkar, Nazarij Ivanitskij, Georgy Lobanov and Oleg Zokh about doping control results in 2013.
Source: armpowernet
Start time | Transcript from YouTube |
00:02 | Right now we will speak about the doping control. |
00:09 | We have 12 positive results now. |
00:12 | The results are positive for big stars in armwrestling |
00:14 | How it will change our discipline of sport? |
00:17 | I think now is a moment for new competitors |
00:21 | For that, who was not so strong yet |
00:28 | For example in 80 – 86kg |
00:33 | If they was not so strong |
00:38 | and they oponents was strong |
00:42 | now, they can be at the first places. |
00:48 | The level of the category will be different |
00:50 | and we will receive new winners. |
00:57 | Is this good for us that there will be missing champions like |
01:01 | Rustam Babayev, Arsen Liliev? |
01:05 | I think… |
01:10 | they was fighting in open classes |
01:15 | Rustam Babayev, Liliev, Mamedov |
01:18 | and Tsakhilov… |
01:21 | Right now the open class will be not so interesting. |
01:28 | Mamedov for example was the best in 80kg |
01:39 | and he won with the verry good sportsmens. |
01:43 | It was standard for this class |
01:50 | but now we will not see him. |
01:53 | And Rustam Babaev in 86kg |
01:56 | was strong in this class – even he pulled with Denis Cyplenkov. |
02:00 | I think it will be missing. |
02:07 | How it will change our sport? |
02:10 | Is this means that it will change the point of view for young people? |
02:17 | They can say “we don’t need this sport because we can be “positive” too. |
02:26 | I think they will not think like this. |
02:30 | They will think that they have to train harder. |
02:35 | And do not use anything what is not allowed. |
02:38 | Just to train this sport. |
02:42 | … ? |
02:52 | What is your opinion about doping control? |
02:56 | I’m not using anything what is not allowed. |
03:03 | I was tested at the European Championships |
03:06 | and there was no problems |
03:11 | I think you can train and collect the results without that. |
03:17 | Relly important topic right now – doping control. |
03:26 | This situation from European Championships with 12 competitors |
03:31 | including the big champions |
03:33 | Rustam Babaev, Kvikvinia ect. |
03:36 | Bratchenia, Mamedov ect |
03:44 | Every name have some fans around the world |
03:49 | In their cities, regions… |
03:52 | … makes some good things… |
03:55 | and they are positive during the doping control. What do you think about this situation? |
04:00 | Is this some mistake? |
04:03 | I think, that because of football Euro 2012 – in Poland there was some changes in the laboratories. |
04:21 | And now they can find more than before. |
04:29 | So, thats why it changed situation. |
04:42 | Its really hard time for this sportsmen and I think everyone have to think about it. |
04:46 | Do you think that all of this 12 competitors will come back after 2 years? |
04:51 | I think we can not see everyone. |
04:57 | I want to say, that (if I remember it good) they have to make second test after this 2 years. |
05:20 | Yes, they have to do second test. |
05:22 | I think some of them will be affraid to make this test again. |
05:28 | They have an option to fight in pro-armwrestling. |
05:33 | Yes, they can go to the pro (PAL) |
05:39 | It hard to say, but it will be hard to leave this sport. |
05:45 | Its not a hobby – its something like the way of life. |
05:50 | How will be armwrestlig changed now (i mean the popularity)? |
06:05 | I think for next time and it will get the championships level down. |
06:15 | Topic: doping control |
06:20 | There was 12 competitors “positive” at the Europeans. |
06:27 | A lot of competitors with big names. |
06:29 | Could you comment this? |
06:33 | Is this some mistake? |
06:49 | Right now no on knows a date, how long the substances stays in your body. |
06:53 | And its changing every year. |
06:58 | There is some substances what you can find in your body for 2-3 weeks. |
07:03 | And some stays more that 3 months. |
07:06 | No one knows how long it stays. |
07:10 | And they are positive. |
07:13 | Do you think they will return to armwrestling after 2 years? |
07:20 | I depends of them. |
07:25 | Its important moment now |
07:31 | … ? |
07:35 | How it change our sport? |
07:40 | Some sportsmen or fans can go away? |
07:49 | A lot of people can more think about it. |
07:58 | Is this good to use some substances for this championships or not if you want to start. |
08:03 | Because you dont know the end of this. |
08:07 | you know – you can became the pro-armwrestler anyway (later) |
08:10 | Since there is no doping tests in professional armwrestling |
08:14 | Yes, but now they have 2 years break. |
08:24 | What you can say for all this “positive” tested 12 boys |
08:33 | Just wait, train… its only 2 years… |
08:40 | and come back! |
08:50 | You are the Ukrainian champion and competitor in Worlds and Europeans. |
09:00 | This year after the doping control we received 12 positive test results. |
09:07 | And there is 12 positive for really big competitors. |
09:21 | What do you thing about it? |
09:24 | How it will change the armwrestling? |
09:34 | Its really negative for us. |
09:40 | for us and armwrestling image |
09:47 | But we have to know, that they known what they are doing. |
09:57 | For the future? Its possible that more people will not came to worlds or europeas. |
10:07 | It will be negative for armwrestling? |
10:18 | I dont think so – everytime its some good result after the doping control. |
10:31 | Do you think this should be tested again, because that all of 12 competitors was positive for… |
10:41 | … only one substance. |
10:56 | Its hard to say. I dont know the technical way for doping control. |
11:03 | But globally i think that it will be good to make tests for all top 3 competitors in every category. |
11:23 | I think it will be standard in next few years. |
11:31 | What all the 12 should do now for this 2 years? Will they return to armwrestling? |
11:39 | Why not? |
11:41 | In our sport we have a lot of fanatics. |
11:47 | Real sportsmen really love this sport. If not – they will not become the armwrestler. |
11:57 | I think they will return and they will fight. |
12:00 | Fight at the same level like today. |
12:05 | Do you think that they will not go to Worlds or Europeans but only for Nemiroff? |
12:12 | It depends of them. |
12:18 | In 2005 European Federation make the first doping control procedure. |
12:22 | EAF wanted to check the “clear level” of our sport. |
12:30 | From the 2004 and 2005 we started official procedure to become Sport Accord member. |
12:36 | The organisation who can say that we are the sport discipline officially. |
12:42 | And give us more possibilities for the future. |
12:49 | One of the important point in this procedure it was the doping control. |
12:59 | In 2005 during the Europeans there was no one positive tested. |
13:05 | And it was really good for us. |
13:09 | And we was thinking that our sport is far away from the doping. |
13:24 | But at the Worlds 2005 there was one positive result. |
13:32 | It was the russan competitor – Artem Klimenko. |
13:37 | It was positive for … (some substance name) |
13:41 | This substance stays in your body for 2 years. |
13:46 | So – this is the start of doping control in armwrestling. |
13:51 | In next years there was some competitors checked and suspended for doping. |
13:57 | It was sometimes 3, sometimes 2 and sometimes 5. |
14:00 | In 2006 there was 6 positives. |
14:05 | But this size (like this year) – 12 competitors – its the first time. |
14:13 | And the tests was positive for big names. |
14:19 | They was “our future” I can say. |
14:23 | Our symbols for armwrestling. |
14:29 | Arsen Liliev, Rustam Babayev, Mamedov, Tsakhilov… |
14:37 | Kvikvinia… |
14:41 | For us it was a shock. |
14:44 | All of them was tested positive for one substance. |
14:48 | Now we have to ask: |
14:50 | is this some mistake in the laboratory? |
14:54 | Or the biology, chemistry made some step forward to find this? |
15:04 | Even there was some joke that its because football Euro 2012. |
15:12 | And the laboratories changes the procedure to make the doping tests. |
15:27 | And from 2012 the laboratories was changed. |
15:37 | So if the sportsmen will open “B” test |
15:42 | and the result will be negative – its mistake. |
15:51 | But if the test will be positive – sportsmen will be suspended for minimum 2 years. |
16:02 | How it will change our sport? |
16:05 | Its not good, but there is the teory to not susped them, |
16:15 | because they are the legendary competitors in armwresling. |
16:21 | Some persons said that there is nothing to watch at A1 in Moscow. |
16:25 | There was Arsen Liliev at the top 3. |
16:28 | Now they dont want to watch it. |
16:33 | What I can say… |
16:36 | If we will not susped the champions then who we will suspend? Only 5 or 6 places? |
16:45 | Its not right. |
16:48 | Otherwise its not good. |
16:54 | But I’m sure that that competitors, or other competitors will think twice before they will use doping. |
17:02 | Its really important. |
17:15 | My first reaction for this situation was the phone call to WAF President (Assen) |
17:27 | and my question was “what next”. |
17:32 | What we have to say to people. |
17:36 | But what we can say. All of you have to know, that in internet there is only me online on all of community sites. |
17:46 | I have an account at facebook, vkontakte, g+ ect and I’m receiving a lot of questions. |
17:58 | In this year I think its not possible but for next years we are going to increase the doping tests. |
18:08 | We are going to test all of 3 top competitors from every class. |
18:14 | From seniors. |
18:17 | Even this year there will be 40 tests inplace of 20. |
18:24 | At the worlds 2013. |
18:27 | For next year we will make 60 tests. |
18:32 | And finally we want to make the test for all medalists. |
18:42 | So for everybody I can say – It will be not easy in the future. |
18:49 | Do you think there will be more positives? I dont think so. |
18:57 | But we have to show everyone, that armwrestling is clear. |
19:06 | But all of you know there is no “clear” discipline. |
19:14 | And every year there is some positives – and it not depends of the fight with doping. |
19:21 | But we can see, that there is some new substances every moment in this kind of sport. |
19:27 | And a lot of not allowed substances. |
19:30 | But not only in armwrestling. |
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